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Screaming about “record profits” and ignoring the cost factor of crude is about as cynical as you can get.
A 10% profit margin is 10%.
drew458
September 18th, 2008
1:24 pm
Is it really cynical? I think it’s a matter of how you base the numbers.
Lets see. Say oil is $10/bbl, production costs $5/bbl, and your net profit is $1.50/bbl. Ok, that’s 10% margin on the amount you had to spend ($15) to produce and sell X gallons of gas (a barrel of crude oil’s worth).
But when oil is $100 production is still $5 – it doesn’t take more work to make gasoline from more expensive oil – your profit is 10.50. That’s still 10% of your investment ($105), because the profit imargin is relative to the cost of raw materials.
But if the profit margin was based on a per barrel processed percentage, which in essence is the same as X gallons of gas sold, then the margin just went up 700%. When oil was cheap you sold X gallons and profited $1.50. When oil got expensive you sold X gallons and profited $10.50. 7 times higher; a 700% increase.
It’s been forever since I read an accounting book, but I seem to remember “cost of goods sold” being in there somewhere. “Profit per Unit Item” I don’t recall. Which is the right way to look at it? I think there would be less cynicism if more people knew what the accounting method was.
I think O’Reilly often gets it right, but the yelling over people which he does constantly unless he is interviewing obama gets on my last nerve. It is like watching Begalla on Crossfire on CNN…
Cowtipper
September 18th, 2008
5:08 pm
Last time I agreed with O-Really was when he sad his gas smell like camel vomit.
4 Responses so far
September 17th, 2008
10:09 pm
Screaming about “record profits” and ignoring the cost factor of crude is about as cynical as you can get.
A 10% profit margin is 10%.
September 18th, 2008
1:24 pm
Is it really cynical? I think it’s a matter of how you base the numbers.
Lets see. Say oil is $10/bbl, production costs $5/bbl, and your net profit is $1.50/bbl. Ok, that’s 10% margin on the amount you had to spend ($15) to produce and sell X gallons of gas (a barrel of crude oil’s worth).
But when oil is $100 production is still $5 – it doesn’t take more work to make gasoline from more expensive oil – your profit is 10.50. That’s still 10% of your investment ($105), because the profit imargin is relative to the cost of raw materials.
But if the profit margin was based on a per barrel processed percentage, which in essence is the same as X gallons of gas sold, then the margin just went up 700%. When oil was cheap you sold X gallons and profited $1.50. When oil got expensive you sold X gallons and profited $10.50. 7 times higher; a 700% increase.
It’s been forever since I read an accounting book, but I seem to remember “cost of goods sold” being in there somewhere. “Profit per Unit Item” I don’t recall. Which is the right way to look at it? I think there would be less cynicism if more people knew what the accounting method was.
September 18th, 2008
3:10 pm
I think O’Reilly often gets it right, but the yelling over people which he does constantly unless he is interviewing obama gets on my last nerve. It is like watching Begalla on Crossfire on CNN…
September 18th, 2008
5:08 pm
Last time I agreed with O-Really was when he sad his gas smell like camel vomit.
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