You are a shining example why Libertarians do not now nor ever will be elected to a postion above dogcatcher.  Do you intend to allow in all Haitians, Ethiopians, amd people from East Timor? Because I would argue they live well below those from Mexico. I have been to both Haiti and Mexico, there is no comparison. How many is ok 20 million, 100 million or half the world?

I lied again.  I don’t really want to know why you think that either.

And as far as gay people, all you have to do is ignore them.  Tolerance is easy.  Oppression takes work.  I’m fully aware that “tolerate” and “approve” are different concepts.    Apparently you’re not, because “legalize” and “approve” are different concepts as well.  For example, I don’t approve of KKK websites, or Black Liberation Theology, or chocolate mint.  But I would never outlaw any of them.

I’ll never be open to slavery or communism.  I’m missing the gene that causes people to want to run other peoples’ lives.  I’m glad to see you’re against keeping the black man down, though.  Maybe there’s hope you’ll eventually feel the same about gays.

If the GOP’s stance on some issues has to be loosened to garner a majority of the vote in future elections, that might have to happen. Otherwise, we will continue to get Liberals elected into power. Sure, I want what we all want – true conservatism, but I’d prefer a Moderate Conservative to a Liberal or Socialist any day. Once the GOP up in power again, at least at the presidential level, then work can be done to get back to basics.  The people have spoken – we’re not going to get back to true conservatism again overnight. UNLESS, there is a candidate that can capture the nation like Reagan did. Or like Obama did (okay, he didn’t take all but one state, but you know what I mean). Deviate from close held beliefs for the greater good of the party and the nation or stick to our moral guns and have virtually no representation as we have ended up.

Is this untenable? Not to me. I can sit alone with my high principles, but I’d rather give way on a few social issues to get my party back in power where they can do more good. Are women more open to compromise on these issues no matter their personal beliefs? Maybe. I know a lot of women switched to the “hopey, changey” camp this election (Holy Lord, my MIL, SIL and niece – sheesh). We need to get them back. We also need to get back some conservative leaning minorities that voted for Obama so that they could see a black man as President in their lifetime. Been there, done that – now let US give them someone to get behind.

Hot button issues will have to be felt out very carefully. Perhaps abortion is one to give up (within reason), maybe gay marriage is not. However, more people would probably have less problem (it’s no skin off my nose) approving civil unions as marriage in all but name only, as long as churches and ministers have the right to refuse them marriage in their church without fear of legal action. I have personal reasons to believe that being gay is not a choice (in most cases) or an abomination so don’t even…

It may even take until 2016 to make this happen. This kills me, as I don’t want my boys growing into men under this regime. So I am willing to allow my party to do what it takes to take back my country.

Anyone else agree?

No, not YOU of course.  I said “society”.  Not necessarily meaning every single person within that society.  I would never stoop so low as to accuse you of being tolerant towards gay people.  Also, I’m pretty sure most Americans favor open migration.

As to getting the Hispanic vote, I just don’t know. I was doing research on minority and woman politicians to see who might be qualified to run in 2012 and who had “fire”. I found that to find an Hispanic Republican with good experience that was born in the US was kind of difficult. Then if you sifted out those that had already had the “touch of W” (or GHWB) the pickins were slim. I did read good things about Devin Nunes from California. He’s Portuguese. Do you get an Hispanic candidate to get the vote? Do you go soft on immigration? Being a Texan it is a big issue.

I also agree with Drew on the abortion issue. To me it has become a non-issue. I have never voted on that as an issue, however, Obama seems so gung ho to have abortion all over, all the time, up until the due date, for whomever wants it, I would have voted against him just on that issue. I have no problem with abortion being legal, I have a problem with it being legal to let a baby that is born alive die of suffocation because it wasn’t wanted. How any medical professional can condone that and participate in it just chills me to the bone.

Want to make a real change? Set the abortion thing aside. It’s been legal for 36 years, and it ain’t NEVER GONNA CHANGE. Give it up. Keep your opinions to yourselves, and when asked, say “this was decided in 1972”. Nothing but nothing frightens away the centrists more than that. You will never get Roe overturned, and if by some miracle you do then each state would have to vote … and each state would make it legal. Let it go. We lost. Get over it.

Ok, the Evangelical part scares the rest of us away too. Keep your faith, but keep it out of the party.

Really, is there another Republican that can hold a candle to Ronnie? Will we ever have that strong leadership again? A candidate that wipes the board in a landslide like 1980 with Dems and Republicans alike voting for them? A President that the world respects that can make them cower with a healthy dose of fear? I miss the 80’s…

The world is only excited about Obama because he’s as big a pussy as they all are.

Note to social cons:  gay marriage will not harm you.  You can still tell your children that it’s wrong.  Just hope they don’t turn out to be gay and resent you later.