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	<title>Comments on: Day Two: It Still Isn&#8217;t The End of The World, But It Is The End Of Something&#8230; Part 1</title>
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		<title>By: Drew458</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew458</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 19:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jen, this is an awesome post! Love it!

While I also fault the Repubs for not hammering against Socialism, it&#039;s a huge uphill battle. Generations of citizens, probably nearly half the voting public, has been fed this pap by the school systems. I just caught the leading edge of it, and I got out of high school in 1978. Nearly every voter from 18 to 45 has been totally dosed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jen, this is an awesome post! Love it!</p>
<p>While I also fault the Repubs for not hammering against Socialism, it&#8217;s a huge uphill battle. Generations of citizens, probably nearly half the voting public, has been fed this pap by the school systems. I just caught the leading edge of it, and I got out of high school in 1978. Nearly every voter from 18 to 45 has been totally dosed.</p>
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		<title>By: jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 15:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,
You make a great point.  I hear the whole &quot;What&#039;s so bad about socialism thing&quot; all the time as well.  The case against it was certainly not made by the McCain campaign.  

The tax scheme is a joke, we all know it.  It isn&#039;t gonna be the top 5% paying either it will be all of us who currently pay taxes.   i think that 250k number is going to be more like 60k and just wait until the folks who voted this guy into office get a taste of that.  Wait till the Bush Tax cuts are gone.  Wait until we are all looking at the AMT which is INSANITY and basically negates your home mortgage deduction and many other deductions.  Lots of people own houses, and when you cannot deduct that at the end of the year suddenly more folks are in the &quot;taxable&quot; column.  Not gonna be pretty. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,<br />
You make a great point.  I hear the whole &#8220;What&#8217;s so bad about socialism thing&#8221; all the time as well.  The case against it was certainly not made by the McCain campaign.  </p>
<p>The tax scheme is a joke, we all know it.  It isn&#8217;t gonna be the top 5% paying either it will be all of us who currently pay taxes.   i think that 250k number is going to be more like 60k and just wait until the folks who voted this guy into office get a taste of that.  Wait till the Bush Tax cuts are gone.  Wait until we are all looking at the AMT which is INSANITY and basically negates your home mortgage deduction and many other deductions.  Lots of people own houses, and when you cannot deduct that at the end of the year suddenly more folks are in the &#8220;taxable&#8221; column.  Not gonna be pretty. </p>
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		<title>By: Mark Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The two candidates themselves were both proof that small government has been rejected well before election day.  Obama’s plan will take about 16 million people off the tax rolls.  McCain’s would merely take 15 million off.  And need I mention McCain’s plan to buy up mortgages?&quot;

Good point.  You could argue that McCain was somewhat running his own brand of &quot;compassionate conservatism&quot;.  I guess I cannot blame him. 

His opponent basically came out and said &quot;I am going to buy your vote&quot; by supposedly giving tax cuts for 95% of the country (Yes, I realize that is actually B.S., impossible, etc.).  Not only are you going to get a tax cut, but you will get all these neat entitlements - don&#039;t worry about the financing (we can always tax the top 5%).

Obama&#039;s magic beans....  we can have 4 trillion in new spending, tax cuts for all but 5% of the population (or welfare for those that pay no taxes), health insurance for everyone and you can be part of history for electing the first Afrrican-American president (finally, a way to absolve us of our &quot;white guilt&quot;).

No one could be bothered to consider how ridiculous the tax and spending promises were... certainly not the media. 

And, of course, who wouldn&#039;t want to elect the &quot;celebrity&quot; adored by Oprah and Hollywood...the trendy pick.     

I live in a large, cosmopolitan city and the looks people gave me when I said I was not voting for Obama...ugh.

Jen - one thing to consider.  Many of Obama&#039;s promises are well received because people lookat the promised end result (i.e., health insurance for everyone, free daycare, etc.) rather than whether it works, whether we can pay for it or whether it is the government&#039;s responsibility.  

My Obama loving brother-in-law even asked me &quot;what&#039;s so wrong with socialism&quot; when I accused Obama&#039;s policies of being socialist.  Now, he is a radical Democrat (huge case of Bush Derangement Syndrome), but perhaps Republicans have not done a good job of answering that question. 

 Until Republicans find a way of getting American&#039;s to buy back in to limited government and personal responsibility, we will continue to lose elections.  Right now, why not take the government handouts...don&#039;t cost nothing (LOL).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The two candidates themselves were both proof that small government has been rejected well before election day.  Obama’s plan will take about 16 million people off the tax rolls.  McCain’s would merely take 15 million off.  And need I mention McCain’s plan to buy up mortgages?&#8221;</p>
<p>Good point.  You could argue that McCain was somewhat running his own brand of &#8220;compassionate conservatism&#8221;.  I guess I cannot blame him. </p>
<p>His opponent basically came out and said &#8220;I am going to buy your vote&#8221; by supposedly giving tax cuts for 95% of the country (Yes, I realize that is actually B.S., impossible, etc.).  Not only are you going to get a tax cut, but you will get all these neat entitlements &#8211; don&#8217;t worry about the financing (we can always tax the top 5%).</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s magic beans&#8230;.  we can have 4 trillion in new spending, tax cuts for all but 5% of the population (or welfare for those that pay no taxes), health insurance for everyone and you can be part of history for electing the first Afrrican-American president (finally, a way to absolve us of our &#8220;white guilt&#8221;).</p>
<p>No one could be bothered to consider how ridiculous the tax and spending promises were&#8230; certainly not the media. </p>
<p>And, of course, who wouldn&#8217;t want to elect the &#8220;celebrity&#8221; adored by Oprah and Hollywood&#8230;the trendy pick.     </p>
<p>I live in a large, cosmopolitan city and the looks people gave me when I said I was not voting for Obama&#8230;ugh.</p>
<p>Jen &#8211; one thing to consider.  Many of Obama&#8217;s promises are well received because people lookat the promised end result (i.e., health insurance for everyone, free daycare, etc.) rather than whether it works, whether we can pay for it or whether it is the government&#8217;s responsibility.  </p>
<p>My Obama loving brother-in-law even asked me &#8220;what&#8217;s so wrong with socialism&#8221; when I accused Obama&#8217;s policies of being socialist.  Now, he is a radical Democrat (huge case of Bush Derangement Syndrome), but perhaps Republicans have not done a good job of answering that question. </p>
<p> Until Republicans find a way of getting American&#8217;s to buy back in to limited government and personal responsibility, we will continue to lose elections.  Right now, why not take the government handouts&#8230;don&#8217;t cost nothing (LOL).</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 02:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I have been reading a lot of things in the last day and this morning.  Is this a rejection of conservative values or the man who represented them?  Intellectually you have to wonder if this is a total rejection of small government...&quot;

The two candidates themselves were both proof that small government has been rejected well before election day.  Obama&#039;s plan will take about 16 million people off the tax rolls.  McCain&#039;s would merely take 15 million off.  And need I mention McCain&#039;s plan to buy up mortgages?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I have been reading a lot of things in the last day and this morning.  Is this a rejection of conservative values or the man who represented them?  Intellectually you have to wonder if this is a total rejection of small government&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The two candidates themselves were both proof that small government has been rejected well before election day.  Obama&#8217;s plan will take about 16 million people off the tax rolls.  McCain&#8217;s would merely take 15 million off.  And need I mention McCain&#8217;s plan to buy up mortgages?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave in Texas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave in Texas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 22:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the sleeping giant is asleep again.

And I absolutely hate what it will take to wake him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the sleeping giant is asleep again.</p>
<p>And I absolutely hate what it will take to wake him.</p>
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		<title>By: Day Two: It Still Isn&#8217;t The End of The World, But It Is The End Of Something&#8230; Part 2 &#124; Demure Thoughts</title>
		<link>http://templeofjennifer.com/blog/2008/11/06/day-two-it-still-isnt-the-end-of-the-world-but-it-is-the-end-of-something-part-1/comment-page-1#comment-1991</link>
		<dc:creator>Day Two: It Still Isn&#8217;t The End of The World, But It Is The End Of Something&#8230; Part 2 &#124; Demure Thoughts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 20:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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